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LYNCH MOB IN LONDON

Sorry for the delay in this post and thanks Chris for your kind words. I've been in Manchester for a hospital appointment with my wife so I am late.

MY THOUGHTS ON LAST NIGHT.

It was a lynch job which Nick knew it would be but we never imagined it would be so one sided and devoted to our party and what was said by whom many years ago. No discussion about the economic mismanagement or the postal strike for instance (nor even Jack Straws file on MI5 as a Communist)

Before the programme I found it strange that police were injured by "peaceful" protestors.
That just gives the lie that the BNP are those who are responsible for violence. It showed who the thugs are (remember Tony Ward)


The make up of the audience coupled with the rabble outside showed what is in store for our people if this insanity of uncontrolled immigration (a la Straw) continues. We are rapidly becoming a third world totalitarian state where only the accepted leftist opinion is tolerated.
Nick had no chance of a fair hearing when at least 50% of the audience was of an ethnic minority and thus a vested interest in destroying the leader of a party which aims to limit their influence and numbers.
Of course they will not agree with him.


The panel consisting of a campaigner for black rights in America, Jack Straw who proclaims his Jewish ancestry but whose father refused to fight to defend them as Nick's dad did, a young "baroness" (why is she a baroness, she has not been elected?. We know why don't we?) who when campaigning peddled a different agenda to the muslims in her constituency from that peddled to the Brits, and Huhne notable for his large eyes but unquestioned about his party's eagerness to cede our sovereignty to the EU and a chairman who thought his duty was to contribute to the attack rather than chair the meeting.

What a stitch up! No wonder Nick was nervous and it was obvious that before the show they had been swotting up on how to attack him.
Nick did make some big hits especially against Straw over his coward of a father and on the immigration issue and ethnicity which the audience want to deny us.
The man who said he would pay for us to go to the South Pole if we wanted whiteness should be prosecuted for racism as we would if we said the reverse about black people. Indeed I dare not even respond in kind here which I could easily.

I know it is easy to criticize from the sidelines but caught on the hop with predetermined hostile questions it is very difficult.

My main criticism was that Nick tried to be too nice to people who shunned him. They are bastards Nick, with no sense of decency. You will never get them to like you so don't try.
Treat them with the contempt they deserve next time, (and there will be one, the BBC likes the ratings).
All in all he acquitted himself well, as shown by the comments sections in the papers and the fact that I have had e mails and phone calls for futher information about the party.

Whatever the long term outcome we have got exposure and opened the can of worms that is the ethnic cleansing of our country which has been ignored for far too long and exposed the panel, audience and demonstrators as the threat to all true Brits.

This is a portent of what awaits our people if we are not listened to, and now they know.

THANKS FOR THAT NICK. We acknowledge your bravery and THE TRUTH HAS BEEN SHOWN, and the people can see it.

QUESTION TIME? IT WAS LIKE NO OTHER QT I'VE EVER SEEN BEFORE

The only time I've ever seen it resembling that programme was the time the American ambassador was on the panel and everyone laid into him. I felt so ashamed that a guest in our country could be so abused and mistreated.

Last night was worse, except this time I'm not ashamed: I'm ANGRY!

The entire format of the program was changed; instead of the audience questions being about current affairs, with the panel members all giving their take on those events, it was a mugging of Nick Griffin. It was as if the BBC laid in wait down a dark alley with a club until Griffin walked by and then amushed him and bludgeoned him into intensive care.

QT selects its audience, QT selects which audience questions will be allowed, QT selects who will be represented on the panel. They selected an audience that was overwhelmingly hostile (and QT knew they would be because audience applicants are vetted and have to suggest what question they will ask - then QT selects both audience and question). Questions that were entirely about the BNP. Panel members that were also entirely hostile. And even the panel chair, Dimblebum was hostile, when he knows damned well he is supposed to be neutral. There was only one question related to current affairs (why are we admitting so many immigrants while unemployment is relentlessly rising?), and that was entirely ignored as everyone went back into bludgeon Griffin mode.

I believe this whole program was an ambush, deliberately planned by the BBC from the very first day they announced Nick was to appear. Indeed, I think they planned the ambush before then, got permission from Brown to do it, and THEN announced that we were to be represented. The BBC, and everyone involved in this mugging should be ashamed of theselves.

Why did they do it? There's a general election in a few months and we take an awful lot of votes from Labour. Labour wants them back. Indeed, it wouldn't surprise me if it was Labour's dirty tricks team that initiated the whole thing, and that's why Brown was so cool about us being on the show.

Here's a comment by a self-proclaimed Liberal who has no intention of ever voting BNP, taken from today's Gurdian. He has the decency to be thoroughly ashamed - it shows in what he said:

Grauniadliberal

23 Oct 09, 11:56am (about 3 hours ago)

I'm a liberal and hate far-right ideas with a passion, but this edition of Question Time was disturbing, worrying and misconceived. In my opinion it was not Question Time at all but Lynching Time and it will only play right into the hands of the BNP.
The rules of liberal democracy state that a wide range of voices must be heard and the rules of the BBC state that politicians with enough electoral support can appear on Question Time. The BNP, unfortunately, is now in this position. As a liberal I subscribe to the ideal of diversity - I may hate your views but will defend to the death your right to express them in a democratic society.
Question Time last night fell way short of this imperative. The format of the programme was totally and utterly skewed to shape it into an all out, hour long attack on Nick Griffin and his (odious) policies. All of the rest of the panel attacked at every opportunity like mad dogs, as did the supposedly independent chairman and the supposedly balanced audience (all liberals like me it seemed). The questions were all loaded against Nick Griffin - where were the questions on the postal strike or any other current event, as there usually would be?
What's the problem you say - doesn't the BNP deserve it? Well yes I expect they do, but to screen a wholly biased lynching of this sort will only serve one purpose and that is to increase the standing of the BNP and give it what it most wants, to be seen as a victim bulied and excluded by an unaccountable liberal media and political elite. Hitler achieved power exactly by engineering hysterical confrontations and then milking them for all it was worth.
Let us ask one question - who seemed most hysterical and unreasonable last night, NIck Griffin or the panel and audience, particularly Jack Straw? This is not the way to deal with the BNP. Reasoned and calm argument is. More of this and the flames of fascism really will be fanned and then liberalism in Britain really will face an enormous challenge from which it may never recover."

When I last looked it had been 'recommended' by 119 Guardian readers - so we do have some civilised opponents out there.

Yours very angrily,

Morg
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DEMOCRATS OUTSIDE THE BBC?

The uaf fascists protesting about an elected MEP being on Question Time have given our party a huge boost. Whatever happens later the undemocratic mainly white students outside ( mummy's boys and girls no doubt having had a private education) but soft as s**t have given us publicity worth £millions.
I noticed the absence of riot shields worn by the police (unlike when 10 years ago elderly farmers protested outside the Labour supporting Sainsbury's depot in Haydock)
These idiots have given us a great boost by showing their undemocratic principles which are "Free speech so long as you agree with us"
Even Tony Benn said Nick had a right to be there, so as batty as his ideas are he shows himself to agree with democracy.

So idiots. By your actions you have already lost the argument and it will have been seen throughout the country.

THANKS FOR THAT!

QUESTION TIME

I sincerely hope for a good outcome on Question Time tonight but I fear the forces of the left and liberal "elite" will conspire to shout Nick down.
They will find it difficult to ask a question he has not been asked before and I have many DVDs of him fielding all sorts of questions.
I have never seen him stumped yet.
However the people invited to the "show" will not be prepared to hear him out and I think will possibly descent to personal abuse. They are not a civilised as the average BNP audience and the fact that the Tory sponsored fascists of the uaf want to ban free speech does not augar well for order.

Intellectually he will tower above them but the baying mob may prevent him showing the superiority of his ideas.
That the other parties are panicing is obvious and the fact that our Party has grown so much in influence in the 7 years is down to Nick's perseverence and guts.
When I joined the Party was almost an underground movement and now we are frightening the establishment.

Whether we eventually get power or not (I obviously hope for power) our influence even now is causing a sea change in political attitudes of the people in spite of a uniformly hostile press, anxious that their cosy cabal of traitors is not exposed.

THANKS FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR NICK and

BEST OF LUCK. We will support you whatever.

YOU ARE A BRAVE PATRIOT.

ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING BETWEEN THE BNP AND THE MAINSTREAM PARTIES AND MEDIA - AND ESPECIALLY THE LABOUR PARTY AND HOW IT WORKS.

I've published a complete post from this blogger before - well I'm doing it again. It's an excellent analysis, well thought out and well written. I wish he was a nationalist. I recommend you read it all, and pass the link along to your friends inside and outside the party. Maybe even to someone in the leadership. - Morg (emphases are mine).
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I'm not one for conspiracy theories involving shadowy people working in secret to influence people, but after watching the way this government has worked for the last few years I've become more open to those ideas. Labour don't seem to use any other operating methods beyond bullying, backroom deals and spiteful vengeance.

So something Mrs Rigby said caused my tinfoil hat to twitch. Cuts to the Territorial Army, especially damaging recruitment, cuts to recruitment and pay for the University Officer Training Corp, cuts to army cadets... well I didn't think anything of those when I saw them in the papers. Everything is being cut. it's a recession. But Mrs Rigby says that the air force and navy equivalents are not being cut. That seems odd.

Especially since a certain general has just effectively sided with the Tories. An Army general. Could this be another example of Labour spite? If so, what deal could the Army do to get back in favour with the bean counters?

Well, they could get the top brass and the veterans to join in the current round of BNP-bashing. Then the cuts might not run quite so deep. I'm not sure Nick the Griff's response is correct in aiming at the Tories. I don't think the Tories are the main players behind this. It has all the hallmarks of Labour's dirty tricks crew, doing a bit of horse-trading behind the scenes.

General Dannatt goes to the Blues, labour make swingeing cuts in Army recruitment but not in Airforce or Navy, then the Army come out as champions of Labour's anti-BNP crusade. A BNP membership list appears, which Nick the Griff claims is padded with thousands of names of people the BNP have had no contact with at all (but the rabid Union of All Fascists will no doubt target them anyway). And it seems the BBC, who resisted Hain's attempts at bullying, might have been 'got at' too

The best job in this country at the moment has got to be that of press officer for the BNP. He doesn't have to do a damn thing. He can party all night and sleep all day. The whole of Westminster, along with their crusty little pet activists, are doing the job far better than any press office could ever manage. Surely someone in Westminster can see what the public are going to make of all this?

Kerry McCarthy is quite open about the reasons for stopping MEP's using Westminster premises. It's to keep Nick the Griff and Bronze Andy at bay. It's to keep people's elected representatives out of Parliament. That is what people see in that action. Not just those who voted for them. I don't agree with their policies but they were elected. Not by me, but then neither were any of those currently in Parliament. On that basis, any MEP of any party is on the same footing, for me, as any MP of any party. What I see here is suppression of an alternative view. It's not my view that's being suppressed but if they get away with suppressing the BNP, they'd have no trouble shutting me up. Or any other individual or small party. If they can once get away with changing the law to exclude a political opponent they don't like, well ...

That is what the public see in all this, those that don't react with the auto-responder permanently cranked up to 'racist-Nazi-bigot-neanderthal-thug' every time those three letters are mentioned. People who would not have dreamed of voting BNP, who might otherwise have heard little to nothing of that party, are wondering what all the fuss is about. Why are the government so scared of them? Why are they so desperate to silence this small party? What do they offer that the government doesn't? Let's face it, so many people are so furious with our current MPs - all of them - that they would be interested in voting for any party that the Brown Gorgon's nosegoblins say they shouldn't. Mainly to get revenge, that's true, but again, someone in Westminster must realise that's likely to happen. They surely must see that when they set their UAF dogs on people who aren't actually causing any trouble, that the public are perfectly capable of determining who is having a march and who has turned up for a fight. Especially when the UAF dress like Al-Qaeda operatives.

So if they know, and they must know, that the electorate are so angry that they might deliberately vote for the party our current government hate the most, just to annoy them, why then would all those parties point out who it is they hate and fear the most? Labour might as well start printing 'Vote BNP' badges ready for the next election.

I've often said that everything the Righteous do backfires. Once more, their attempts to silence a party they don't like is backfiring in spectacular fashion. The more they attempt to suppress and silence the BNP, the more people wonder why. As their efforts become more and more deviously underhanded, mixed with open bullying and violence, people stop wondering why the government hate the BNP so much.


They start wondering what would happen if the government took a dislike to them. They see the techniques aimed at a party they don't know much about because nobody will let the BNP speak and they think, 'Well, they're doing that for no other reason than they don't like this bunch. So what will they do if they decide they don't like me?' Then they think about it a little more and they realise something important.

This post isn't actually about the BNP, you see. So anyone currently suffering tinnitus and steam coming from their ears, chill out, have a smoke and a double brandy and relax. It is not a post in support of the BNP nor is it a post attacking the BNP. This is about what is happening to the BNP so look again, and ask if it could happen to you.


Would your government take a view opposing yours and silence you, and those who would speak for you, and refuse to countenance any debate at all that would let you have a say? Would your government use lies and deceit to override anythng you might want to do or say? Would your government use the law against you, demonise and punish you, encourage others to treat you as subhuman, for no other reason than they just don't like you?

Do you smoke? Drink? Drive? Are you a little on the portly side?

Can you see why the BNP support is growing? It's not because people are all suddenly racist, it's not even because people are all suddenly in tune with all the BNP policies on all the other things because they're pretty much the same policies Old Labour used to have.

People have seen the way the government are working on the BNP and they are thinking about that while they shiver outside for a smoke, while they queue in those bars for a two-drink maximum, while they hear about the new, hard-to-spot speed cameras that don't flash so you don't know whether you're fined until the letter arrives. They are reading about fat people beaten up for being fat, they are watching the NHS video of a smoker beaten unconscious by invisible Righteous, they are consoling children scared to death by the drowning puppies of the global warming religion, they are wondering why their government thinks they are all paedophiles, they are crossing the road to avoid Labour's generation of uneducated, untouchable yobs, they are counting the times they have been stopped and searched for taking a photo...

People aren't looking at the treatment of the BNP and thinking 'They could do that to me'.

They are thinking 'They have done that to me'.


The government tell me the BNP are evil racists. Well, they've already told me I am personally evil because I smoke. I'm even more evil because I like a drink. I'm yet more evil because my salt and fat intake is nowhere near the recommended amounts. I carry a camera everywhere. I'm a crazed 'global warming denier'. Looking at the list of things this government calls me evil for being and doing, Satan had better watch out for his job. So when they call the BNP evil, I'm supposed to consider that a different type of evil or something?

I'm not going to vote BNP. Too socialist, too controlling, and I'm not keen on the extent of that repatriation thing either. But I'm not the only one classed as Satan's heir. There are millions out there who have been demonised far more than me. Why would they vote BNP?

Why would they not?
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Morg again - I nicked all that from here

I wish I had written it. He calls himself Leg-Iron, and he's well worth reading most every day.


Morg
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