Friday, 4 March 2011

TWO POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS TO THE ISLAM PROBLEM.

I prefer the first of the two ... given that the second isn't going to happen.

But as long as we are a part of the EU, that isn't going to happen either. So that must be our first order of business when we are eventually elected to government - leave the EU; no negotiation and no warning. We just announce we are no longer a part of their stupid game, reclaim our fisheries and seal our borders (while we still have the remnants of an army, a navy, and an air force). We might care to ask them what they plan to do about that given that they've repeatedly failed to defeat us over the past thousand years. Also announce that any trawler caught fishing in our waters will be immedately sunk.

Then we can get on with deporting all Moslems back to their countries of family origin. Any native Brit converts can have a choice ... they can find a Moslem country that will accept them, or they can live out the remainder of their lives on St Kilda. We'll provide a permanent naval patrol to ... er ... ensure nobody hurts them.

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/018805.html

What Pakistan tells us about the Islam problem, and its solution

The second Pakistani government official in two months has been assassinated for opposing his country's death-for-blasphemy law. This hideous news clarifies the ineluctable logic of the Islam problem, which not a single person occupying a responsible public position in the West is capable of understanding:
  1. According to Islam, if you insult Islam, you must die.
  2. This Islamic law, so horrible and anti-human, is a scandal to the conscience of humanity, and both non-Muslims and some Muslims naturally get the idea of reforming Islam, so that it will no longer require the death penalty for insulting Islam.
  3. But as soon as any Muslim speaks up against the Islamic law that requires death for insulting Islam, he is killed by his fellow Muslims. In one form or another, the same event has recurred repeatedly throughout the history of Islam: when anyone tries to reform or humanize the religion, he is killed.
  4. Therefore no reform of Islam is possible.
This is the reality that not a single person in a responsible public position in the West is yet capable of understanding. However, though no reform of Islam is possible, this doesn't mean that no solution to the Islam problem is possible. In fact, there are two, and only two, possible solutions to the Islam problem, one from the non-Muslim point of view, the other from the Muslim point of view.
From the non-Muslim point of view, the only possible solution to the Islam problem is that Islam be segregated and quarantined from the non-Muslim world, so that Islam cannot work its evil and threatening influence on non-Muslim countries.
From the Muslim point of view, the only possible solution to the Islam problem is that Islam cease to exist, meaning that Muslims renounce Islam so that the religion no longer has any influence over them as individuals and as societies.
I realize that this sounds hopelessly extreme. But our current situation is hopelessly extreme, and no one says that therefore it can't be true! If our current, hopelessly extreme situation can exist, then its opposite can also exist.
Currently the two dominant belief systems in the world are liberalism (in the West) and Islam (in the 57 Muslim-majority countries plus the virulent Muslim outgrowths in non-Muslim countries). A world cumulatively dominated by liberalism and Islam is a world spiraling toward a horrible end, with each downward swoop of the spiral more horrible than the last. If the world is to be saved, both liberalism and Islam must be defeated, or at least disempowered, so that other, more sane and viable, belief systems take their place as the dominant belief systems.

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Here is the article about the latest Islamic assassination in Pakistan, in the March 3 issue of The Independent:

Pakistan was reeling last night from the second assassination in as many months of a high-profile politician who spoke out against the country's draconian blasphemy laws that impose the death penalty for insulting Islam. Gunmen ambushed Shahbaz Bhatti, the only Christian government minister, outside his mother's home in Islamabad and sprayed his car with at least 10 bullets, killing him instantly. The assassination was chillingly similar in execution to that of Salmaan Taseer, the Governor of Punjab, who was slain by his own bodyguard in January.
The assassination was claimed by "the al-Qa'ida organisation and the Punjabi Taliban". Before speeding away, the killers left behind pamphlets boasting of their act. "The only punishment for blasphemy against the Prophet is death," the pamphlet in Urdu said.
"A white car stopped near us at a crossing," Mr Bhatti's driver Gul Sher, who was slightly injured, told reporters. "Four people were sitting in the car. One of them got out with a Kalashnikov ... He came in front of the car and opened fire. I ducked. Minister died on the spot."
The killing has plunged Pakistan's long-suffering minorities into deeper despair, yet again raising the question of whether they can afford to continue living in the country. Mr Bhatti and Mr Taseer's attempts to review the draconian blasphemy laws, which have been responsible for persecuting minorities, were cast as an act of blasphemy.
Mr Bhatti, the Minorities Minister, had been receiving threats from militant groups for some time. In a video broadcast on the BBC and Al Jazeera before his death, he said: "The forces of violence, militant banned organisations, the Taliban and al-Qa'ida, want to impose the radical philosophy in Pakistan. Whoever stands against their radical philosophy, they threaten them."
Pakistan's Christians came on to the streets. "We've been attacked many, many times in our history," said Shimon Gill, a member of the All Pakistan Minority Alliance. "But now we have been orphaned. Who will speak up for us now?" In Mr Bhatti's village, Christians torched tyres, beat their chest in protest and denounced the killers.
Mr Bhatti had no guards to protect him. The Pakistan government claims that after Mr Taseer's assassination by a member of the police team supposed to be guarding him, Mr Bhatti had refused to have bodyguards. But Mr Bhatti's associates said that he was denied the security he asked for, and was not provided with a bulletproof vehicle.
Threats against Mr Bhatti escalated after he joined Mr Taseer and liberal parliamentarian Sherry Rehman in calling for a review of blasphemy laws. The three politicians were among the few prepared to call attention to the fate of Aasia Noreen, a 45-year-old Christian farmhand sentenced to death for alleged blasphemy. Her supporters dismissed the allegations and said charge stemmed from a falling out with a village elder.
Mr Bhatti, a Roman Catholic member of the ruling Pakistan People's Party, told friends he was prepared to die in pursuit of rights for his community. "These threats ... cannot change my opinion and principles," he said. "I would prefer to die for my principles, and for the justice of my community, rather than compromise on these threats."
Human rights groups said the assassination laid bare the government's policy of appeasement towards extremists.
Since Mr Taseer's assassination, the religious right has gone from strength to strength, mounting huge demonstrations in support of blasphemy laws and exalting his assassin. In recent weeks, they have added to their cause demands that Raymond Davis, a CIA contractor who killed two Pakistani men in Lahore last month, be hanged. Washington is demanding Mr Davis be released.
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Gintas writes:

From our point of view Islam is a problem, but from our ruling elite's point of view it's a solution--a solution to the "problem" of Western Civilization. They want to smash us into submission (perhaps even oblivion), and what better tool than the religion that means "submit"? As Orwell said in 1984, "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever." I think that image truly thrills our ruling elite.

Morg
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INQUEST ON TWO BI ELECTIONS

First of all congratulations to Enis Dalton on her election result in Barnsley and saving her deposit.
The result however was a big disappointment in that we were trounced by UKIP and which was not unexpected.
Although Enis saved her deposit her percentage of the vote was down by 2.9%
The question we have to answer is why?

Well at our conference in Leigh Nick Griffin gave the result of a survey where people were given certain names and asked what was the first word that came into their head. He told us that when the words BNP was said they answered without thinking "Nick Griffin"

In other words our party's image is "Nick Griffin".
It follows therefore that our decreasing support must in at least part be due to the negative image rightly or wrongly associated with him, just as Labour won 3 elections not on policies but on the positive image of Tony Blair however unjustified this image was.

Therefore while Nick was prepared to use what he hoped was a positive image in his favour he must now accept that his continuing presence as a leader is putting the brakes on our progress.

We have policies with which most people agree but they still don't vote for us in sufficient numbers.
We like UKIP are for withdrawal from the EU but unlike them we have many other policies to solve our national problems.
They (UKIP) are as much in the pockets of the banking and hedge fund thieves as the other parties and other than their anti EU stance are little different. In a working class area like Barnsley if our ideas had been put well and if voters had trusted us we would have done much better.


We forget that people are more interested and motivated to vote by things that matter to them personally in their locality and we should have concentrated on these matters more. This is the result of decisions made "on high" and not locally and it is localism which will win us power.
Halal meat, troops home and even immigration though important to us are less so in some areas than pensions,student fees and jobs.


After election defeats other parties accept the need for a change in strategy and possibly a new leader.
Unfortunately our party and its leadership has not learned this old lesson but it must do if we are to survive as a force in British politics.
Or perhaps the leadership does not want to learn and keep its senior positions in a rapidly decreasing group of followers.

The bi election in Walkden was not much better. I know the lads there worked hard but were beaten by the English Democrats.
What does this party stand for. A vague form of nationalism maybe but what are its other policies. Who is their leader. God knows And still they beat us.

It must or should tell us something when hard working activists and a good candidate is beaten by a party whose policies are unknown.

Again it is the image of our party and I am afraid that with the present leadership and officials we will get nowhere.

If they REALLY believe in the interests of OUR party (it belongs to all its members) they should do the decent thing , step down and let others more acceptible to the electorate take their place.

We also need to reunite with all the good nationalists who have been driven from our ranks into one party which stresses what unites us rather than where we differ as has happened so often in the past.
If we could manage this we would be a powerful force for good in the country.

I shall not be holding my breath that the leadership will allow this to happen, but by their actions I and many other members will judge them.

yaz