Saturday, 19 February 2011

SMOKING BANS - THE RESULTS ARE IN.

There's a blogger out there who calls himself Frank Davis. I don't think he's particularly a nationalist, but goodness me he's a fine writer.  Here's the blog:

http://frank-davis.livejournal.com/144737.html

I wish he wrote for us.

Read it carefully to the end. Hmmm ... maybe he's a bit of a nationalist after all.

Morg
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It's my own personal conviction that the really serious damage that smoking bans do is to the very fabric of human society. I'd like to try to explain how this happens and why it matters.

Smoking bans drive smokers from pubs and bars and cafes, and one result of this is that pubs and bars and cafes close down, and this is a visible consequence - 'closed' and 'for sale' signs spring up on the bankrupted pubs. Much less visible are the human communities that are also closed down. A pub or a cafe is a centre of community, a place where people meet and make or renew friendships. When the smokers have been driven out, these bonds of community begin to be broken, because they are no longer being repaired and renewed. The entire community (and not just the community of smokers) begins to unravel. But no 'closed' or 'for sale' signs go up on these communities. The loss is invisible.

One may think of a community as a number of interconnected nodes. The nodes represent individual people, and the lines connecting them represent the relationships between them, some close and some distant, some strong and some weak. At the outset, in a vibrant pub or cafe society, there will be lots of connections between people, lots of friendships and acquaintanceships. But when smoking bans expel smokers - even by just making them stand outside - they stretch and weaken and break many of these bonds of friendship. And the result is that the little society centred around a little cafe or bar becomes less cohesive. It may even disintegrate entirely. At which point the cafe or bar closes down, and the 'for sale' signs go up.
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One consequence of this, for example, is that more cohesive groups of friends may set up their own little convivial sub-communities in their own homes (e.g. 'smoky-drinky places') where they can continue to meet to enjoy each others company. But when this happens, the community as a whole has become fragmented, broken up into small groups of families or friends.

But because these groups of families or friends exist in private, it's difficult for anyone to join them. The original vibrant, cohesive pub community was always being renewed and revivified with new people, even while illness and old age depleted them. The new private groups, starved of new members, are likely to in turn gradually become depleted, and themselves die out.

The end point of this process is one in which society has been entirely atomised, and consists of a set of atomic individuals, who have no connection whatsoever with one another, beyond that of an occasional casual encounter.

Does it matter if this happens to a society? Does it matter if communities disintegrate? The antismoking health establishment that has been demanding ever more extensive smoking bans does not seem to think it matters at all. The only thing that seems to matter to them is "health", by which they mean the physical well-being of individual people. In their view, smoking bans improve "health" by "helping" smokers to give up the unhealthy habit of smoking. (It does not seem to occur to any of them that, when smokers are driven out of pubs and cafes to stand outside in the wind and cold and dark and rain, they are put at far greater risk than they were while they were smoking and drinking inside. Even by this crude measure of "health", smoking bans are far more unhealthy than the alternative.)

If we are really to make a decisive improvement in this vacuous, one-eyed notion of "health", it has to be said that the very best thing to do would be to close down all pubs and cafes. Because it's not just smoking that is claimed to be bad for people's health, but also drinking alcohol, and eating crisps and peanuts. All these things are deemed to pose "health risks" of one sort or other. But even if nobody smoked or drank or ate anything, and pubs became indistinguishable from churches, there would still be a discernible "health risk" simply from people transmitting communicable diseases (colds, flu, measles, mumps, etc) to each other. The "healthiest" society is quite obviously the atomised society in which nobody knows anybody else, and everybody stays at home.

And, who knows, perhaps this is what these antismoking health professionals would really like to see?

But let's look a little more closely at what happens when communities disintegrate. These communities do not consist solely of shared friendships, but they also provide a network of mutual support. In these communities people actively help each other out in all sorts of ways, doing shopping for each other, lending things to each other, repairing things, cooking food, checking to see how people are. It's not all just sitting in the pub talking about football. And when a community disintegrates, a network of support disintegrates too. People are left entirely to their own devices. And in the case of the elderly, their devices may be very limited, if they can no longer walk or read or hear. For such people, the death of the community is quite likely to be the death of them.

Nor is it that friendships and acquaintanceships are not important. A marriage is probably the greatest friendship that many people find. In marriages families are bound together by strong bonds. It is in these marriages and friendships and acquaintanceships that many people find meaning in their lives. Take away their marriages and friendships, and their lives become meaningless.

And in an even wider sense, it is through language and writing and music and art that human society is bound together. When people speak, it is so that someone else may hear. And when they write, it is so that someone else may read. And when they play guitar it is so that someone else may listen. Destroy society, and there is no point in anyone speaking or writing or painting or playing music, because all these activities are essentially and inherently social activities.

Smoking bans do not just drive pubs and cafes out of business. Nor is it even that they shatter communities. Smoking bans strike at the very heart of human society itself, and all its wealth of speech and literature and art and music. Smoking bans attack the core interconnectedness of human society. They are an assault upon humanity itself.

The foundations of human society do not lie in universities or government departments or shops or cinemas. The foundations of human society lies in the networks of millions upon millions of bonds of marriage and friendship which tie communities together. Shatter these bonds, and you shatter human society just as surely as you may fell with a power saw in a single afternoon a mighty oak tree that has taken hundreds of years to grow.

It's not just that smoking bans don't even improve "health" (even in the narrow and dwindled sense that antismokers use that word) at all. People carry on smoking and drinking anyway. They just stand outside and do it, and catch their death of cold. But what smoking bans do achieve is the destruction of communities, and the breaking of millions of bonds of affection and aid and support which go to make up the edifice of human society.

The antismoking "healthcare" industry is no better than a band of wolves which has been unleashed upon humanity to rend and tear it apart. Or else they are vandals armed with chainsaws. We have, as a matter of dire necessity, to rid ourselves of these people and all their works. For if we don't there will no longer be any "we" to speak of.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Morg,

Cheers, Onward and Upward, God Bless,

You are a true Patriot.
xxx

Anonymous said...

Morg -- Humans will fight for three things: Family, Faith and Nation. Familia, Fede et Patria. Because humans love family, country and God. Love. Our chairman is right. We are a party of love, in the deepest and most radical and most normal sense of the word. I say that despite the chorus of academic recordings whining "well, what is normal for you isn't necessarily normal for someone else..." Isn't it, though.

Food and survival are implicit in "Family," economics in Nationa, and all in Faith.

The Communazis work hard to destroy that love because without it we become dispassionate, inert, enervated, lifeless and helpless.

The British National Party is the party of Love, of Faith, of Family, of Nation, of fervour, of passion...which is why we are growing and growing, despite past treachery, and why we shall overcome.

NICK GRIFFIN, MP, PM!!! Your time will come, Nick. soon.

Anonymous said...

Hello Wigan Patriot.

When I saw your post on Frank Davis's sites, my hopes lifted. I thought for a moment that we had a specific local blog which could bring together The Smoking Community in Wigan and Leigh. I really did.

It has saddened me very much to see that this is not so.

It isn't that I am seriously against the BNP, but the BNP is strictly a political organisation. Frank Davis's site is not political. I think that you should have said something like: "We at the BNP (Wigan and Leigh) agree...."

People like Frank D and Leg Iron and DP despise all politicians because they are all tarred with the same brush.

If I was you, and I was a real patriot, I would remove references to Nick Griffin and concentrate on the injustices and not on the people. But it is up to you.

ENGLISHMAN said...

Bravo!as with all things ,it is the small things that matter,for if we abandon them we will never have any big things,never a chance to build something high and great.

Anonymous said...

20 February 2011 01:36 Anon..........


" If I was you, and I was a real patriot, I would remove references to Nick Griffin and concentrate on the injustices and not on the people. But it is up to you. !"

" remove references to Nick Griffin "

No, thank You, Nick Griffin, is our Chairman and Leader, go away, we do NOT NEED OR WILL TOLERATE, REDS in our ranks - take your spoon and stir it elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

Hw dare you call me a red! I do not support Manchester United!

Silly Kuffar said...

@Anonymous said...

Hw dare you call me a red! I do not support Manchester United!

Hi Anonymous,

Instead of inane comments could you please read some of our articles and comment on the validity of them rather than try and put us down on other blogs.
Who actually didn't fall for your immature complaint.

Cheers.

SK.

Anonymous said...

TO ANON,



WELL SAID SK,

TO ANON, AND THEIR MATES,

BRITISHLADY,...TO THOSE WHO HAVE A PROBLEM .........ANYONE, WITH A GRIPE WITH MY NAME, BRITISHLADY,,
TRY AND GET MY NAME REMOVED, I WILL RETURN. = SAD UAF STUDENTS,
LEARN HOW TO SPELL, YOU PATHETIC RETARDS. SAME APPLIES TO EDDY COLD EYES BUTLER FANS. GO AND STIR YOUR FILTHTY SPOON SOMEWHERE AWAY.

THIS IS A WIGAN PATRIOT BLOG, WE IN WIGAN, DO NOT TOLERATE FOLK WHO ARE BOTHER CAUSERS. SOME ON HERE ARE YTO POLITE..IAM NOT GET LOST, CAUSE YOUR MISCHIEF ELSEWHERE, WIGAN BNP ARE SOLID, BYE BYE

junican said...

@ Silly Kuffer.

Is it not obvious that I was trying to suggest that calling me A RED is silly. What is a RED? Is it a Coservative, a Socialist, a Liberal, a Monster Raving Loony? What is a RED?

Your representatives, over on Frank Davis's site, called me 'childish', 'immature', 'spoiled', 'grow up', '12 year old snitch', 'sod off kid', 'grow some'.

What a wonderful style of recruitment! 'How to win friends and influence people' must have been based upon those thoughts.

I saw Nick G on the TV and much admired his courage and his cool - the same goes for Farage from UKIP.

Your commenters are a disgrace.

junican said...

And why do you not publish comments right away? Hardly anyone on the blogosphere censors comments in advance. What are you afraid of? You should be pleased that persons comment on your site, even if the comments are not favourable. How else will you learn anything?

As regards your instruction to look at what you have written before criticising, I have to say that I fail to see your point. When did I criticise anything that you have written? I did not do so. You have written an awful lot of stuff - why should I read it? I have not the time.

Why are you all so touchy? You called me a lot of nasty names. Do you not think that an apology is in order? I will save your site to my favourites and wait to see.

Silly Kuffar said...

@junican
"I saw Nick G on the TV and much admired his courage and his cool - the same goes for Farage from UKIP. "

Funny how you never mentioned that on Franks site when you went to try and get the Refrences to Wigan patriot site removed by your complaint.

We don't publish comments on here straight away as during the night the likes of the UAF would come on here and start leaving disgusting references to nazis and Anti-Semitic remarks, Racist Remarks etc to make it look like we are all NAZI, Fascists and Racists.
Simple really.
And junican we can all read your comments on the Frank Davis site and understand that you were not informing Frank that we support the British National party as a favour to us, now was it.
You thought you would try and do a bit of STIRRING and Frank did the correct thing and ignored your moan and actually thinks we are doing the right thing.
Now I think you have some sort of problem as you don't seem to be able to get over yourself.
We don't owe you anything and you certainly won't receive an apology.

Silly Kuffar said...

This is the comment left by junican left on the Frank Davis site -

http://frank-davis.livejournal.com/144737.html

"I thought that you might like to know, Frank, that 'the Wigan Patriot' shows every sign of being BNP. He gives a reference whereby one can download Nick Griffin's speeches.

Am I right in thinking that, no matter what your own political leanings might be, your blog is apolitical? Like Leg Iron, DP. Subrosa (even though she is very SNP!), Snowdon, etc you are essentially pro-freedom and anti-tyranny and anti-brainwashing and anti-ban. I am sure that that is correct.

It isn't that I am particularly anti BNP - as far as I am concerned, BNP is just another political party. Also, your blogs are public property on the internet (provided that a person quoting you makes the attribution). That is the internet convention, isn't it? Anyone can copy what you say on your blog - that is not a problem. The only thing that bothers me is that your reply to Wigan Patriot could be interpreted as supporting BNP.

I was really heartened that a local blog had appeared which represented the Smoking Community locally to me. I was disappointed to find that it was a political party (BNP) blog.

Bloody annoying. "

Now junican, what's so "BLOODY ANNOYING" ?

You even have the nerve to comment later on saying you like Nick Griffins cool.

HYPOCRITE.

And Frank Davis knows you are and everyone other reader and commentor on his site must also think the same.

Anonymous said...

Red, Buzz and Socilst 1,
all have been expelled from the Wigan Evening Post. they


are Unite Against Facist clones



and trolls. end of.

Anonymous said...

To all on this blog, I enjoy 99 per cent of posts. why on WEP, our paper, we are denied freedom of speeech,we get called a bigot,

tell u what BNP have my vote,#join me up i live in wigan central, r u puting a bnp.man up.plenty will vote bnp, please stand a person, wigan central, is being takin over by foreign, all the other do not care

Anonymous said...

BE AWARE, THE UAF AND SWP, ARE POLLUTINGING, CERTAIN SITES,
BE AWARE, SPEAK YOUR MIND, DO NOT LET THE MINORITY, RULE THE MAJORITY.

Anonymous said...

Silly Kuffar



AGREE,


NO WAY. SHOULD YOU APOLGISE,

BRITLADY

yaz