WIGAN STALINISTAS IN ACTION

It is important that this post STAYS ON TOP. It's a long post, but we want as many Wigan people reading it as possible - give it 36 hours at least.

It shows that the Labour party has declared war on its own people. It refuses to allow debate by Wigan people about the Labour party. Read the comments I copied, and go here:

http://www.wigantoday.net/wigannews/Angry-scenes-at-shortlist-meeting.5973982.jp

Look at the comments; look at the deletions, and check with these copied comments to see what they deleted, to see what they are sensitive about, and to see how petty they sometimes are.

This was the comment thread as I copied it - I missed one or two, but the evidence is overwhelming - THE MODERN LABOUR PARTY CONSISTS OF STALINISTS. Do the people of Wigan want to vote for these critters?

The job started off easily enough - there appeared to be only one apparatchik doing the deleting. But it got progressively more difficult as they must have been phoning around their fellow Labour activists to get help. By the end, comments were going up and instntly being deleted - still, it kept them off the bottle and the weed I suppose. That's my little social service for this week.

We now have evidence to present to the electorate demonstrating that Labour no longer believes in Liberty for the British people in general and, locally, the Wigan people in particular.

12 January 2010
By Richard Bean
A selection row has rocked the search for Labour's choice of the next Wigan MP.
There were angry scenes at the weekend's Wigan Constituency Labour Party (CLP) meeting after local woman Emma McGurrin failed to make the final list of six Labour hopefuls fighting to replace Neil Turner.

Her supporters will meet this week to discuss making a formal objection to the General Secretary of the Labour Party.

They erupted into noisy chanting when the result was announced and a number walked out.

Miss McGurrin, cousin of Sky News presenter Kay Burley, declined to comment on the outcome but Wigan Labour Party said claims about irregularities had "no substance".

She is now known to have been invited to apply for the Makerfield seat, which is also going begging after Ian McCartney's surprise decision to stand down.

As we went to press eight other candidates have come forward, but Miss McGurrin remains the sole 'local' choice so far.

The six-strong group chosen to fight the Wigan seat for Labour are: Metro cabinet member for children and young people Coun Susan Loudon; former Government Asylum and Immigration Minister Barbara Roche; policy advisor for the charity Children's Society Lisa Nandy; Liverpool City Council member and full-time party worker Roz Gladden; East Midlands Development Agency member and former European Parliament candidate in 2004 Elizabeth Donnelly and Hackney Labour councillor Nargis Khan.

Miss McGurrin's supporters allege that some Wigan Labour members were turned away because of a supposed lack of space to accommodate them in Hallgate's Unite office venue.

They say the doors were locked against voters gaining entry BEFORE the meeting start deadline.

One furious Wigan CLP member who did attend the meeting said: "The meeting was moved from The Deanery High – which obviously has loads of room – to the Unite office, which doesn't.

"Officials decided there was no more room and locked the doors before we were due to start, leaving supporters out in the cold.

"When the result was announced people couldn't believe it. There was booing and people broke into a round of chants for 'McGurrin, McGurrin' before there was a mass walkout. It just wasn't right."

Makerfield CLP applications close this Thursday. Members name their six-strong panel on January 23.

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Lomra Greener,
12/01/2010 10:03:10
Not surprised at the protest.

I keep saying it; there would be a massive outcry of 'sexist' at a male only short list.

Discrimination is discrimination and there is nothing 'positive' about it. There are only negative effects from policies such as this.

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rugbyleague_is dead_inwigan,
12/01/2010 10:32:01
liarbour in freefall ,lets hope that the people of wigan wake up and get rid of this fraudulent party forever in wigan ,as a liarbour voter for years ,no longer will i vote for a party that only feather their own nests and laughs at the rest of us ,out with the scum .

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JosephJames,
12/01/2010 12:16:46
You could.nt make it up could you,the labour party should be renamed as the soviet socialist party.

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Jemmy,
Bryn 12/01/2010 12:20:50
A '31 year old single mother' just doesn't seem the right qualification for a MP.

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trucker john,
wigan 12/01/2010 12:58:38
no surprise there then, rats and a sinking ship come to mind,

    6
Jay1,
12/01/2010 14:30:11
'Hackney Labour councillor '

Laughable.

If only we could find a decent local independent candidate to rally round.

Maybe Kay Burley could give up her sky news job.;-).

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labour no more 12345,
12/01/2010 14:57:40
its a fix from start to finish. this london woman will get in . so come may or june get this lot out. or are you just like them yes men . just noding dogs?

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Wasted,
12/01/2010 15:11:19
It's all fixed.
You don't need to go out and vote because as long as you are outnumbered by benefit claimants it's pointless.
Look where all the post offices are. Norley and Asda.
Just hope the rest of the country is not as thick.
But with all the extremists the BNP will do well I think.

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Labour Voter - Never again!!!,
12/01/2010 16:46:17
No need to watch a comedy show!!

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BRITISHLADY,
12/01/2010 16:49:02

" Officials decided there was no more room and locked the doors before we were due to start, leaving supporters out in the cold "

Does that not show the arrogance and contempt of this Party to there own members ?

Leave them, out in the cold at polling day.

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away but watching,
12/01/2010 17:00:06
We should not be shocked by this situation, Wigan has always been a guaranteed labour seat,to have an mp from Wigan who is decent and honest is never going to happen, a yes man / woman who has no links with the town and can be controlled from Labour hq, and needs a safe seat is always going to be in position, the day Wigan wakes up and tries a different option, then and only then do we have a chance of reading some positive comments in columns like this , It would not take much to win the Wigan public over, a bit of decency, honesty and a will to try on behalf of the borough.

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 17:10:29
away but watching: Decency, Honesty, Will.
I do believe you've pointed the way to the BNP.

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 17:12:01
I'm timing post 12 for deletion.


ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 17:20:26
They must still be in the labour club.

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dougiesmate,
12/01/2010 17:22:22
I actually don't believe this article.

The idea that there were lots of people (who later staged a mass walk out) supporting this woman but she could not get on a shortlist (not the selection but just to go forward to the next round!) or that they were locked out beforehand is just not credible. A quick search on the internet shows that Labour selections and shortlists are one member one vote. So this McGurrin lady didn't get enough votes compared to some who are not even known?!? It is faintly ridiculous to think that is because members were prevented from selecting her.

I know there will be the usual anti lot who will swallow this story hook line and sinker because it fits their own vision of the Labour party, but those of us who are not so blinkered retain a healthy dose of scepticism for stories like this.

The most telling line is "She is now known to have been invited to apply for the Makerfield seat..."

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BRITISHLADY,
12/01/2010 17:27:24
Could the WEP not have put a small picture and brief writeup of the 6 chosen to fight the Wigan seat for Labour.
Many, I am sure have never heard of some of them till today.
It is a quite importent, your next Mp.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 17:43:31
Deletions and filth will be pointless this time - I am copying each comment as it is posted.

Given that it takes approximately a minute and a half for a deleton to go through, I should catch the lot. I can keep this up for several days if necessary.

When the debate is over, I may tidy up and publish the wuole thing on Wigan Patriot, if it gets bad enough.

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 17:44:21
As I thought. Post 12 didn't last long.
All I said was that post 11, Quoting "Decency, Honesty and Will. Could be a recruiting call for the BNP.
Sad isn't it that the pinko's can't even stand the sound or sight of the words BNP.

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 17:46:36
Morgan: Thanks for that. This could be a long debate though.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 17:49:41
ytrewq

Longer the better, provided it stays on topic.

Without all the filth - though that too will be useful for patriot post - let people know what we're up against.

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 17:53:53
Morgan: I don't know whether or not you are following the Bob Brierly post. But red pen man's got going on there as well.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 17:56:13
More importantly - let the people of Wigan know what the God fearing decent Labour party they used to vote for morphed into when it became "New" Labour.

That God fearing decent Labour party was the one I was once a member of.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 18:00:23
I tried following both - but could only manage the one - it's not so simple trying to catch every comment. So put the word on that post - the debate will be taking place here - even Brierly stuff if you wish.

Doing this is a little boring though, and I doubt if I can comment much of my own.

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 18:08:27
Morgan: No worries.

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celedrialjoy,
wigan 12/01/2010 18:23:00
Ooops; ytrewq, Morgan you really are upsetting the NEW-liarbour activists. Seems like things are not going to well in the town hall, Oh dear...

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 18:23:11
To the man with the red pen - you are wasting your time.

I'm a former serviceman so, as ytrewq will confirm:

1. I can cope with boredom

2. I am stubborn.

Y'see, my father was the most stubbrn man I ever met - turned out his No 1 boy could out-stubborn even him.


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leviticus,
12/01/2010 18:24:06
i see the noo labour red pen moron is with us again, ket them argue etc amongst themselves maybe then the people of this town will see them as the self serving money grabbing shysters they really are and use their heads before they blindly put their x in the box for them

celedrialjoy,
wigan 12/01/2010 18:27:40
leviticus;
I think that quite a lot of Wiganers are going to be using their heads when visiting the ballot box in less than 6 months.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 18:28:57
Doesn't matter folks - have your debate - I've caught every comment so far - so it will be published eventually.

The debate main topic is the Labour party and its discriminatory illegal selection paractises; with possibly a side debate about Bob Brierly if you so decide.

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 18:31:09
4 deletions and I didn't get a chance to read any of them.
Celedrialjoy: I don't know why the new labour activists are getting upset, if indeed it is new labour activists doing the deleting. I thought that this was an open forum where views could be exchanged. If the mere mention of the BNP and the qualities they stand for is enough to trigger censorship, then we have come a long
way toward a totalitarian state

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celedrialjoy,
wigan 12/01/2010 18:32:07
I decided not to post for a while on these pages due to the disgusting posts by the Trolls on the snow chaos story. But hey there they go again trying to choke free speech, Sorry can not but up with bullies cyber kind or any other.


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celedrialjoy,
wigan 12/01/2010 18:35:27
ytrewq;
For some while I have believed that this country has been running towards the principle of dictatorship, I had hoped I was wrong, but unfortunatly the tactics being used to deny free speech are more akin to the regime of Hitler than to any democracy.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 18:36:32
ytrewq

Just for you:


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celedrialjoy,
wigan 12/01/2010 18:23:00
Ooops; ytrewq, Morgan you really are upsetting the NEW-liarbour activists. Seems like things are not going to well in the town hall, Oh dear...

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 18:23:11
To the man with the red pen - you are wasting your time.

I'm a former serviceman so, as ytrewq will confirm:

1. I can cope with boredom

2. I am stubborn.

Y'see, my father was the most stubbrn man I ever met - turned out his No 1 boy could  out-stubborn even him.


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leviticus,
12/01/2010 18:24:06
i see the noo labour red pen moron is with us again, ket them argue etc amongst themselves maybe then the people of this town will see them as the self serving money grabbing shysters they really are and use their heads before they blindly put their x in the box for them

celedrialjoy,
wigan 12/01/2010 18:27:40
leviticus;
I think that quite a lot of Wiganers are going to be using their heads when visiting the ballot box in less than 6 months.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 18:28:57
Doesn't matter folks - have your debate - I've caught every comment so far - so it will be published eventually.

The debate main topic is the Labour party and its discriminatory illegal selection paractises; with possibly a side debate about Bob Brierly if you so decide.

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celedrialjoy,
wigan 12/01/2010 18:37:28
Morgan;
Thanks,

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 18:39:00
On the Bob Brierly site, all I did was to agree with a previous post that was praising Bob for his determination to fight for the people of Wigan. I think I upset the censor when I pointed out that those qualities that they identified in Bob where to be found in the BNP, and if they wanted change, they should vote BNP as they are more likely to be able to affect that change than a lone voice. Strange people out there.

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celedrialjoy,
wigan 12/01/2010 18:43:32
Things are getting tense with NEW-liarbour and their followers. They are terrified of people voicing their opinions.

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 18:45:06
Dougiesmate: I also got deleted on the Bob Brierly thread for praising you.
I admired the way you cut through the fog of deceit to seek the truth.
Like I say, "Strange people out there".

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 18:47:19
CJ

Go to Wigan Patriot and email me. If you have an hour or so to Spare tomorrow afternoon, I'll need you to take over for a while - MUST go to the post office and the shop tomorrow (no, I don't get Giros).

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 18:52:01
Truth, to some people is like a beacon of light, to others it is like a laser beam, shrivelling their souls.
The so called labour party have now gone so far down the path of deceit that truth is poison to them.
Truth, education and devotion to country is now required to reverse our decline; only the BNP are prepared to follow the path necessary.

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dougiesmate,
12/01/2010 18:56:37
I don't actually get why some of these comments are deleted. I think the BNP are reprehensible but I also believe they can be easily beaten in open debate. OK some of the posts on here are little more than "dur, vote BNP cuz dey are gud and labour are ded bad" but I rather like the general public seeing that (not that they read these sites) as they can form their own conclusions. The usual conclusion being don't vote BNP.

So that said - I am as anti BNP as the next person - I still don't get why a lot of these comments are being deleted?!?

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:01:57
Dougiesmate

I'm a BNPer and we wlcome debate - nothing but good can come from it - if we are beaten in it, then fair dos.

The deletions are generally random to disrupt debate about the Labour party - make people give up and go elsewhere. Mention of the BNP is only the excuse they use. They thrive in the dark - shrivel in the light.

Keep commenting - even anti-BNP comments will be posted on Wigan Patriot.

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Cartman,
Wigan 12/01/2010 19:05:05
Five months to go? - YIPEEEEEE

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:05:12
But do note that the topic here is the Labour party.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:10:44
Incidentally, the Chatterati in Islington have now started talking about "all Black shortlists".

Nothing concrete yet - but that's how they start these things.

So "All woman shortlists" will be old hat before long.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:15:39
That's one of the reasons why the Haaridan is pushing through legislation to make ant-white-males discrimination legal.

You will be a second class citizen in your own town.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:28:32
And 46

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:23:12
That includes you Labour party members.

Don't say you weren't warned. Imagine what it'll be like when you've already been up in arms about the discriminatory all-woman shortlists here.

It wont be a local woman - that critter Roach will get one of the places - and some other bigwig apparatichik will get the other.

You read it here first folks - you are just fodder for the Labour carrer politicians.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:25:58
Repost of censored comments (the truth doesn't half hurt them - as you can see by the comments deleted.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:10:44
Incidentally, the Chatterati in Islington have now started talking about "all Black shortlists".

Nothing concrete yet - but that's how they start these things.

So "All woman shortlists" will be old hat before long.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:15:39
That's one of the reasons why the Harridan is pushing through legislation to make ant-white-males discrimination legal.

You will be a second class citizen in your own town.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:28:32
And 46

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:23:12
That includes you Labour party members.

Don't say you weren't warned. Imagine what it'll be like when you've already been up in arms about the discriminatory all-woman shortlists here.

It wont be a local woman - that critter Roach will get one of the places - and some other bigwig apparatichik will get the other.

You read it here first folks - you are just fodder for the Labour carrer politicians.

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 19:30:02
You still there dougiesmate?
Who do you think are reprehensible now?
Those who wish to participate in civilised debate, or the stalinists who are in control of the party that was once labour?

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 19:33:42
You still there dougiesmate? Who do you think are reprehensible now?
Those who wish to participate in civilised debate; or the stalinists who have hijacked the labour party,

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:33:45
It's all going to be posted on Wigan Patriot - so anyone will be able to see what you Stalinistas are sensitive about.

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 19:34:36
Thank god for a party like the BNP who will stand up to these thugs

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:35:21
I missed comment 51 - care to repost?

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 19:37:43
Thank god for a party like the BNP who will stand up to thses stalinist thugs.

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Morgan,
12/01/2010 19:38:06
Well stalinistas - as long as you know that all your sensitivities are going to be available for the people of Wigan to read at their leisure.

And how petty most of them are - you are declaring war on your own people.

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 19:38:49
Hello dougies mate are you still there?
Where is our debate?
God bless the BNP.

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ytrewq,
Wigan 12/01/2010 19:41:55
Still think the BNP are reprehensible dougiesmate? your stalinist mates are running true to form, trying to stifle debate and truth.


Morg (with an awful headache and as tired as hell)
.

UPDATE

I just conducted a small experiment, Comment 103

No deletions for a while, so I posted the following entirely innocuous comment:

"Can we please discuss the main topic. I'll stay out of it. I just want to read what people think."

Immediately deleted. Confirmed what I suspected - they FEAR me after what I've done to them over the past few days. My name is enough to get them into deletion mode. I'm honoured actually - Labour party's professional dirty tricksters down at Walworth Road frightened of little old - and I mean old - me.

I had noticed that after the evisceration I committed on UaB and Buzz that they were no longer arguing with me - just deleting as fast as they could. Hope this post gets spread around, and I must thank Jack at Lunatic Arms for doing what he can to help that happen.

Thank you Jack.

Incidentally, the deleted comment 84 was also mine - in-between the two comments they left in place. In it I had said that if I was Gordon Brown I'd sack the lot of them for incompetence. Which is why comment 85 said that I would throw a laser printer and a mobile phone at them first. We know all the (provable) stories about Brown and his mental difficulties. I hope there are tight controls on the use of nukes.