Friday, 5 June 2009


Wigan Borough:

Total electorate – 236,091

Actual turnout – 63,760

= 27%

Turnout comprised :

Main ballot – 42,378

Postal vote - 21,382

Those are actual hard figures.

The 43 full ballot boxes are now behind two locked doors in the deeds room at the town hall. They’ll be returned to Robin Park on Sunday evening for the actual party-by-party count.

Every box has a BNP numbered seal on it, and I have a record of which numbered box has which numbered seal.

I can’t tell you how any of the parties did because all the work so far with the ballot papers has been done with the papers face down. There will be no exit polls from anyone because the Germans don’t hold their elections until Sunday. So all we can do is wait and see. Every member of the European Union (27 countries) is holding Euro-elections this weekend. We and Holland have already done so. Apparently Geert Wilders’s PVV has done very well and will gain four MEPs. The Dutch haven’t been such sticklers for the rules as we are, and some exit polls have been reported there.

We’ll be able to tell you late Sunday night/early Monday morning how we have done here in Wigan, but I think it’ll be late in the day on Monday before anyone can give any regional or nationwide results.




Anonymous said...

Thanks for the update Morg,

You have done a sterling job,

attending and seeing to the BNP

seals going on the boxes.

Leigh, Lancashire Nationalist said...

Well done Morgan!

Yesterday afternoon and evening I went to a number of the polling stations in Leigh and the feedback I got from the polling officials was the votes cast (and this certainly the case in the mid-evening) was near a 20% turnout.

So, I was quite happy with this as we always do very well on a low turout.

Congratulations must go to Sharon Wilkinson our first County Council elected representative!

Sir Henry Morgan said...

That sounds about right Gary - one third of the votes were from postal votes, and postal votes had a turnout a little over 50%. So 20% for the main poll would work out about right.

There were near enough 40,000 postal votes sent out, a little over 21,000 returned.

If you subtract the 40,000 potential postals from the 236,000 potential total electorate, that leaves 196,000 potential main ballot votes. Of these, a little over 42,000 actually voted. 42,000 is about 21%.

I can go and work out the exact percentage to a few decimal places if you want - but it'll still be within 0.5 of 21% turnout for the main ballot.

I shink this is bloody pathetic. On the "Use it or lose it" principle, one of these days the British people are going to lose the right to vote. Take my word for it, that will be BAD! I've lived and worked in several countries where there are no meaningful elections, and visited plenty more overland on my motorbike - and without exception, every single one of them was what we would call a shithole - compared to which even today's Britain is a paradise (much deteriorated as it currently is).

Every country I'm talking about is a third-world country in either Africa or the Middle East ... and who's making up the overwhelming majority of the mass immigration that's taking place and will lead to the British being in a minority in their own land? That's right - and they'll convert this country into the shitholes they came here ostensibly to escape. They have made much progress towards that end in many parts of Britain where they've concentrated in ghettos.

Sir Henry Morgan said...

Typo alert - shink = think

Anti-gag said...

Hi Morg,

Be careful with this one:
You are right, the turnout of the normal (non postal) voters was disgraceful at 21.88%, while the return of postal votes was a quite respectable (in a non general election terms) of over 50%. This could be used by our corrupt government to justify further extending the method of voting ie: voting machines in pubs, and text message voting, all of which have already been tried out in local pilot schemes across the country. Now while I'm all in favour of engaging more people in the democratic process, I'm afraid that a voting system that has no hard ballot papers just a computer printout of what is claimed as a true voting record is simply too open to fraud at the moment. To put it crudely: I simply do not trust many of our government officials. Embedding, within the software, an algorithm which changed 3 BNP votes into 2 BNP and 1 Labour vote would simply be too easy, and if done correctly would be untraceable to any individual programmer! Remember the law does not allow a running total of the vote to be made, so checking would be impossible.

Also from the initial results it appears we may have done much better than many of us feared. So we might still see a couple of BNP MEPs this time. And of course I big well done must go out to Sharon Wilkinson our first county councillor I think!

Keep well.
Chris Hill

Lanky Patriot said...

Yes well done Morgan. Sterling work.
I'm very tense as I don't like suspense but some results from the midlands and south are encouraging.
What is certain is that our vote is increasing. For that to happen with the concerted media lies against us and refusing to discuss our actual belief is a miracle and a credit to all those who have worked so hard.
It could be also a sign that the state and foreign controlled media are losing some of their influence as people see their hidden agenda which can only be good for democracy.
The net is our tool for truth and we will continue to use it.

We must wait till Sunday to see if we have any MEPs but we are still growing and that's the most important thing.

Lanky Patriot said...

Sorry I forgot to congratulate Sharon Wilkinson who I has worked so hard and at last achieved what she so deserved.
Lancashire will be a much better place for her being there.
Well deserved Sharon. I'll buy you a drink next time I see you.

All the best,


Andrew said...

Top stuff! Makes for icing to go on top of the sh1t that is my motorbikes front master cylinder.

Leigh, Lancashire Nationalist said...

Is it only me that can't make head nor tail about what Andrew is trying to say?

Anti-gag said...

Hi Charles,

No Andrew's 10:11hrs comment is total gobbledegook.

Keep well
Chris Hill

Andrew said...

Hello everybody. I will have to explain further.

The BNP making headway - if not a large one.. Good!

My motorbike has a problem and its doing my head in... Bad.

Anyway. Wheres red the dead head? Was it something I said?

Andrew said...

Can you extrapolate the county council votes to (approximately) assume how good or bad we will perform on the EU elections?

I've no idea what the overall figures are or where to look.

I've kicked the bike but don't feel any better.

Lanky Patriot said...

Andrew, the difference with County Council votes and Euro votes is that UKIP, incompetent sleazy and over promoted will damage our percentages.
You can not I think exterpolate County Council results to the MEP chances so we'll just have to see.
As far as the North West is concerned with it's Labour stongholds voters will be more inclined to vote for us than the sham Tory UKIP.

We can but hope.

Sir Henry Morgan said...


Secondly, party political choice at local level may not be representative of party choice at national level. There is a strong train of thought which suggests that turnout for the BNP at Euro level is lower than at local level. Conversely, there is an equally strong argument that people who have voted BNP at local level are likely to already feel strongly enough about politics to carry this allegiance through to Euro level. On the current figures, it is impossible to tell which of the two scenarios will play out. Either of them, in any event, do not affect the fact that the BNP has an excellent chance of taking at least one seat in the North West.

Thirdly, the final Euro tally will be affected by the size of the turnout for the UKIP party. Talked up by the media, it is highly possible that large numbers of people who have voted Tory at local level would have given their Euro vote to UKIP. This will see a substantial UKIP vote, which may affect the ability of the BNP to take seats under the d’Hondt system, even if its vote increases as per the figures below.

With these important caveats in mind, here follows the average local election result for the BNP. The possibility of a win or loss is calculated upon the minimum percentages required for the BNP to place on that region’s list of elected MEPs:

South West region: Average BNP vote: 6.8 percent. Result: No Euro BNP seat.

South East region: Average BNP vote: 7.4 percent. Result: BNP vote just below the threshold, therefore no Euro BNP seat. (This result can be affected by the fact that the BNP only fought local elections in many areas which had either never seen a BNP candidate before, or which had no record of previous large BNP votes.)

London region: Only one local election contested by BNP, vote was 17.5 percent. Impossible to make prediction, therefore must presume no Euro BNP seat.

East of England (Eastern) region: Average BNP vote: 9.8 percent. Result: BNP vote just below the threshold, therefore no Euro BNP seat.

East Midlands region: Average BNP vote: 14.3 percent. Result: One possible Euro BNP seat.

West Midlands region: Average BNP vote: 12.6 percent. Result: One possible Euro BNP seat. (This result could be boosted by the fact that the best BNP-supporting areas in the West Midlands - Stoke, Sandwell, Dudley and others - did not have local elections on Thursday, meaning that large numbers of BNP voters are not reflected in this average figure).

Yorkshire & Humberside region: Average BNP vote: 10.3 percent. Result: One possible Euro BNP seat. (This result could be boosted by the fact that the best BNP-supporting areas in Yorkshire - Leeds and others - did not have local elections on Thursday, meaning that large numbers of BNP votes are not reflected in this average figure).

North East region: Only two mayoral elections held, average BNP percentage in those two contests was 6 percent. Impossible to calculate on those figures, therefore no Euro BNP seat.

North West region: Average BNP vote: 13.1 percent. Result: One BNP Euro seat, and possibly two.

It therefore seems likely that that BNP will take at least one European parliamentary seat in the elections. If the local results hold true on the Euro level, it could be more.

In either event, the BNP has now established itself as a national presence, and has become firmly embedded throughout the country as a household name. Membership has increased dramatically during the campaign, and the party is now better placed than ever before to carry on the struggle for the survival of our nation.