Friday 1 August 2008

NICK GRIFFIN IN LIVERPOOL

We went to a meeting in Liverpool last nigh where Nick Griffin gave an inspirational speech (he always does) to a capacity crowd.
If people could just hear him and see the sense he talks I can not see how anyone could fault his assessment of what is wrong in our country and ideas to correct these faults. He presents his arguments, unscripted,( take note Mr Cameron) in a logical easily understood way. The difference between him and Mr Cameron being that we have policies and the Tories do not. They will not commit themselves to an agenda which means that even at this late stage they can not see what is wrong with our country.
We know what to do and they don't!
Unfortunately we are up against a hostile media which will not report our policies and if they do distort them to make them unacceptable to the voters.
They are afraid of the truth but through the medium of the internet we are bypassing them to get our message out.

Nick Griffin is by far the most intelligent politician in this country and his speeches are truly inspirational .I have several on DVD which I will send to anyone free of charge if they ring me on 07779 321542 and I defy anyone not to be inspired.






15 comments:

Dr Chris Hill said...

Being able to state the bleeding obvious, albeit in a very charismatic way, doesn't mean that you are capable of providing a solution to our nations ills. Yes Griffin is intelligent (unlike most of the rest of his gang), but he is clearly not capable of leading a successful political party which is able to cure those ills.

I've listened to his very erudite speeches since 1999, and yes his is a very charismatic and persuasive person, but the simply fact is after 9 years of his leadership we are no closer now to saving this country than we were in 1999. Nick Griffin has failed to make any significant headway in 9 years. Let's stop putting our faith in a show business personality type leader, and look for a competent ships captain.

I'm sick and tired of hearing: 'just wait everything will be OK', it won't! In a time when the ruling party (Labour) is more unpopular than at any other time in the last 25 years, voters are not doing what Griffin promised they would do 'turning to the BNP', but simple doing what they have always done at such times: swing to the long established opposition party the Tories. Loyalty to Griffin may well be seen by some as being very commendable, but be in no doubt in reality it is also selling our country down the river, and nothing less!

The question every member must now ask is: ' is the BNP simply a Nick Griffin Fan Club or a serious political party?' it's our chose.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Leigh, Lancashire Nationalist said...

Good ole anti-gag, we can always rely on you to bring your drivel to the comments section of any pro-Griffin report, can't we now?

The truth is Mr Hill, you've jumped ship and there's no way you can get back on board, you are basically treading water:and you have nowhere left to go in your political wilderness apart from going round in circles and that cry for help is thankfully, falling on deaf ears.

It's quite obvious that the BNP, has never ever before been held in such high esteem with the British public that we are currently enjoying now. And more and more members and supporters are coming to the fore, and all this under the Griffin leadership; and your inept charade to put a spanner in the works, continues to be quite rightly thrown out.

As you know Mr Hill, we are not a vindictive bunch here in Wigan, and we continue to tolerate your ramblings out of courtesy to continue the vein of freedom of speech. And although I'm only speaking for myself here, I'am sure both Lanky and Sir Henry would like you to hold your tongue and stop your futile ranting on here.

Many have tried to reason with you Mr Hill purely out of respect; unfortunately, you are very much beyond reasoning with, and that is a shame. But, it would be nice if you can now go on your merry way! That is unless you can contribute in some meaningful and constructive way for the people of Wigan, and change your usual one man doom-mongering neurotic manner.

Unfortunatley, your lack of respect for Lanky inparticular (who, as you know, tried harder than most to heal any rift,) as now gone way beyond comprehension.

Lets just leave it at that Mr Hill, shall we?

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Anonymous said...

Lanky

" Nick Griffin is by far the most intelligent politician in this country and his speeches are truly inspirational ".

Agree 110%,

Brown, Cameron and Clegg look such
phoneys when compared to Nick Griffin in both his presence and political argueements.

How, anyone, being of SOUND MIND, cannot, see the great Leader this Country is crying out for, is Nick Griffin.

Dr Chris Hill said...

Dear Leigh, Lancaster nationalist,

I'll cover just one point in your reply to my last posting simple because you make only one point, and an incorrect one at that. The rest of your posting, I'm afraid, is just a weak attempt at denying reality.


You said:
It's quite obvious that the BNP, has never ever before been held in such high esteem with the British public that we are currently enjoying now. And more and more members and supporters are coming to the fore, and all this under the Griffin leadership

I say:
Just exactly how is this supposed increase in the public's esteem manifesting itself? Our average vote has been dropping for two years now, and membership is also dropping. These two facts alone should be enough to show any sane person that change is needed, and needed now! Our current average vote in bi-elections of 10%, given an average 30% turn out, means we have problems convincing one registered voter in thirty to turn out and vote for us. Your assertion that the party under, Griffin's leadership, is held in high esteem is simply wrong and our bi-election results show that clearly. Griffin's quite revolution is a myth, the party is losing ground practically everywhere.


Finally you say that both Charles and Morg would prefer me to stop posting on this blog, well if that were true then of course I would stop. When the Lancaster UAF blog banned me from their blog's comment section I stopped posting. Not because I couldn't have posted anonymously, but simply because trying to reason with people who are not prepared to engage in an open and free discussion is pointless. It's simply impossible to engage in a reasoned debate with someone who has their head stuck firmly in the sand. But I don't believe for one second that that applies either to Charles or Morg, and I'm sure both would have the common decency to tell me themselves if it were true.

I say again:
What every member must now decide is: is the BNP a serious political party or merely a Nick Griffin fan club.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Leigh, Lancashire Nationalist said...

Chris (aka: anti-gag) which one of us is actually denying reality?

Is it really me or is it really you?

Due to the BNP making massive inroads on the political spectrum, and I say this on the basis that we currently have approximately 100councillors and a member on the GLA, and lest we forget Stoke-on Trent BNP who maybe council leaders at the next elections, this coupled with record attendances at the recent Liverpool meeting and three new Wigan members coming to the fore after our recent meeting, just proves that we are very much in decline, does it Mr Hill? Oh! And I nearly forgot to mention that the BNP website continues to be the most visited political website as opposed to the other 'major' political parties put together: and certainly with the new format of live coverage and feeds from our website, really does have me shaking in my size 9's at the prospect of us being sold down the Griffin river!

Who's getting it right Mr Hill and who's getting it wrong?

And if I may just add Mr Hill, and that is; I was coming back from the shops this afternoon and I was stopped by an elderly couple who said " I voted for you" and thus ended up spending a good 20 minutes having a good honest chat with the couple! And believe it or not, they never mentioned Chris Hill? I wonder why? Is it because I got 15% of the vote at the last local elections? Hmmmmm... What's the best you've achieved Mr Hill?

I REST MY CASE!!!!

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Dr Chris Hill said...

Dear Leigh, Lancaster nationalist,

You Said:

Chris Hill? I wonder why? Is it because I got 15% of the vote at the last local elections? Hmmmmm... What's the best you've achieved Mr Hill?

My answer:
25% Shipley 2003
21% Skerton West 2007

But given our falling vote nationally over the last two years, I do say well done to you on achieving 15%, you can be proud of bettering our national average this year.

The figure you quote of 100 councillors is quite misleading. We have in fact only 54 elected district councillors, the rest are largely unelected parish councillors.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Leigh, Lancashire Nationalist said...

Have you actually represented the area where you live Mr Hill? Like I have done!

Where is your 2008 results?

Dr Chris Hill said...

Dear Leigh Lancaster Nationalist,

You say you represented your area, can I ask was that as an elected British National Party councillor? Because if it wasn't its indeed still very commendable, but in the context of this debate totally irrelevant.

As for the 2008 results there were no elections in Lancaster this May, and in fact there are no scheduled elections here until 2011. But I will be putting my name forward as a prospective BNP candidate to the party for the Lancashire county council elections next year. And I am very hopeful that the new administration will give it serious consideration.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

Anonymous said...

Anti-gag

" But I will be putting my name forward as a prospective BNP candidate to the party for the Lancashire county council elections next year. And I am very hopeful that the new administration will give it serious consideration. "


WHY ?
WHY ?


Just go and argue somewhere else.

Your Selfish - ego - is not welcome.

I will tell you - what others think.

Nick Griffin - you oppose -

anti-gag - gag yourself !

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Dr Chris Hill said...

Dear RedWhiteandBlue,

Your last posting is not the most thought out and reasoned argument I've ever seen, can I respectfully suggest you think a little before posting comments. A reasoned argument (from either side) adds to a debate, while your type of rantings do not.

If I can make just one last point: your redwhiteandblue tag details are totally blank, making your post in effect anonymous. Putting a confirmable name to a comment gives it far more creditability that an anonymous comment.

From
Chris Hill
(Lancaster)

yaz